By Jeffrey Burton
Ben’s Bogus Confession
Ben’s interview was softball B.S. I don’t believe he is remorseful for his actions and I’m back to thinking I really don’t want him to be a Steeler anymore. He was only remorseful for getting called out on his asinine behavior. Any of Michael Vick’s interviews have been more convincing. The ‘Big Ben Persona’ did it defense? Broadway Joe Nameth had a bigger persona than anyone and he nailed (with consent) Raquel Welch, Ann-Margret and others with no controversy whatsoever. And Tom Brady? Forget about it. When he makes serious amends I’ll believe it, right now we need to raise his stock and unload him next year. Now the question is should we go for a Quarterback in the 1st Round?
Draft Thoughts
After analyzing the Draft and checking out what the sports media has to say, I had to evaluate a couple things. To hear the media talk Colt McCoy and Jimmy Clausen’s careers are over before they begin, because they weren’t drafted in the 1st Round. Sam Bradford and Tim Tebow conversely should be getting fitted for their yellow Hall of Fame jackets. Hey, it’s self-evident; they went in the 1st Round didn’t they? This sent me down a rabbit hole that I want to share with you, because it surprised the hell out of me. I took a look at a fantasy site that ranked all starting Quarterbacks. After some further research, here is what I found:
| Quarter Back Draft Round Comparison | ||||||
| 1st Rd | 2nd Rd+ | SBA | SBW | Franchise | HoF | |
| Aaron Rodgers | X | X | ||||
| Drew Brees | X | 2nd | X | X | X | |
| Peyton Manning | X | X | X | X | X | |
| Tom Brady | 6th | X | X | X | X | |
| Phillip Rivers | X | X | ||||
| Matt Schaub | 3rd | |||||
| Tony Romo | Undrafted | X | ||||
| Brett Favre | 2nd | X | X | |||
| Jay Cutler | X | X | ||||
| Eli Manning | X | X | X | X | ||
| Kevin Kolb | 2nd | |||||
| Donovan McNabb | X | X | X | |||
| Joe Flacco | 2nd | X | ||||
| Matt Ryan | X | X | ||||
| Vince Young | X | |||||
| Ben Roethlisberger | X | X | X | X | ||
| Carson Palmer | X | X | ||||
| Alex Smith | X | |||||
| Chad Henne | 2nd | X | ||||
| Matt Cassel | 7th | |||||
| Mark Sanchez | X | X | ||||
| Jason Campbell | X | X | ||||
| David Garrard | 4th | |||||
| Matt Leinart | X | |||||
| Kyle Orton | 4th | |||||
| Matt Hasselbeck | 6th | X | ||||
| Matt Moore | Undrafted | |||||
| Josh Freeman | 2nd Rd | X | ||||
| Sam Bradford | X | X | ||||
| Jake Delhomme | Undrafted | X | ||||
| Trent Edwards | 3rd | |||||
Now, I was kind of floored when I checked this out. There is exactly the same amount of 1st Round starting Quarterbacks as there are 2nd Round plus at 16 apiece.
In Super Bowl appearances the 2nd+ group have the edge 5 to 4. The franchise tag is subjective, so this is just a best guess based on how I feel about the guy as opposed to how the team feels about the guy.
Super Bowl wins are dead even at 3 a piece. Out of the QB’s that are a lock on the Hall of Fame, I can only find three, Manning, Brady and Favre. The only way that Brady doesn’t make it is if the NFL declares it a violation to have violated (with consent) too many hot women. That is 2 to 1 for the 2nd+ gang.
| Quarter Back Draft Round Comparison (10 Best All-time) | |||||||
| 1st Rd | 2nd Rd+ | SBA | SBW | Franchise | HoF | ||
| Joe Montana | 3rd | X | X | X | X | ||
| Steve Young | X* | X | X | X | X | ||
| Johnny Unitas | 9th | X | X | X | X | ||
| Peyton Manning | X | X | X | X | X | ||
| Tom Brady | 6th | X | X | X | X | ||
| Brett Favre | 2nd | X | X | X | X | ||
| Dan Marino | X | X | X | X | |||
| Fran Tarkenton | 3rd | X | X | X | |||
| John Elway | X | X | X | X | X | ||
| Roger Staubach | 10th | X | X | X | X | ||
| Supplemental * | |||||||
| Future HOF X | |||||||
On the All-time list we have 6 of 10 2nd Round plus.
How does this influence Draft philosophy? Below is a breakdown of hardest positions to transition between college and the pros:
| NFL Game Adaptation | ||
| Defense | Offense | |
| CB | QB | |
| ILB-FS | WR | |
| DE | LT | |
| SS | C | |
| OLB | RT | |
| NT | RG | |
| TE | ||
| RB | ||
Defense
Now, I have Cornerback first because it is the most physically demanding in a one on one basis. Rookie CB’s will be facing wily veterans that are as good as or better than the best people they have faced in their college career. They also have a target on their back that QB’s and Offensive Coordinator is just living to exploit.
Inside Linebacker and Free Safety comes next because they are the OB’s of the front seven and secondary respectively. They have the most to learn coming in. The rest break down from the edge defenders in. If you are a big bodied run stuffer with good lateral movement at the college level, you are going to be asked to do the exact same in the NFL so that’s why the Nose Tackle is at the bottom of the list.
Offense
QB is a no-brainer as the hardest. There is no position that is more demanding physically, mentally and psychologically than this position. This latest trend of throwing in your number one pick sometimes your first overall into the game in the first year has rendered disastrous results in recent years. If you value someone so highly that you spend a franchise quality pick, you owe it not only to the player, but to the franchise to allow him to develop. (See David Carr).
Wide Receiver is to Offense as Cornerback is to Defense. Left Tackle, the blind side, edge player dealing with cagey veterans one on one is next. Following is the Center, the QB of the offensive line, with lots to learn.
The rest shake out down to Running Back. If you can run in college, much like the DT on Defense, you can run in the Pros. Given that the average career of a RB is 5 years, most teams want to get them in and productive as soon as possible.
So why do so many GM’s roll the dice and sometimes come up with Akili Smith, Tim Couch, JeMarcus Russell or Ryan Leaf? Because it’s the most important position on the team. You can have all the other pieces in place and never make it to the big show, unless your name is Dilfer and you play on that pesky Baltimore team.
The top rated QB’s have had their game picked over, generally they encountered the highest level of college competition and played in a pro-style offense for a coach that understands the pro game. The only two 1st Round picks I have are either Jake Locker of Washington or Arkansas’ Ryan Mallet if he declares.
The other athletes to watch are projected anywhere from the 2nd to the 6th Round at this point Colin Kaepernick is my favorite.
Quarterbacks 2011:
| Rd 2 to 6 – QB |
| Colin Kaepernick QB-ATH Nevada |
| Scott Tolzien QB Wisconsin |
| Nathan Enderle OB Idaho |
| Andy Dalton QB TCU |
| Ricky Stanzi QB Iowa |
Its way early to do a Mock Draft, we need to wait until we see what’s happening with our Cornerbacks and Offensive Line. We know we have to go to the Defensive Line and Safeties early.
Summer Wish List
1. Could we sign Logan Mankins, please? I can’t stand another season of Chris Kemoeatu. The Patriots don’t want the 2-time Pro Bowler for some reason. I think for five to six million dollars a year we could have someone to stabilize the Left Guard position for the next four to six years.
2. Could we please get someone to take the Right Tackle position away from Willie Colon? Ramon Foster, newcomers Jonathan Scott or Chris Scott? Someone? Bueller?
3. That Charley Weis and Todd Haley clash next season so we can pick up Weis as Offensive Coordinator. Bruce Arians should have been fired long ago and Weis is well versed in Smash-mouth Football.
I had other stuff, but I’ll save it for next blog.
Go Stillers!
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Great read Jeff. I agree on some points, like we could sure use a Logan Mankins but I am not a fan of Fargas nor do I believe the Steelers should trade Ben.
My point on Ben is, even though I am disapointed by his actions, I like it when my team wins. What he does in his personal life is not my place to judge, I will leave that to the Big guy and the law. As for what he does on the field, you just don’t find that very often. Ask the Bills, Dolphins or Broncos where the replacement for thier past legends are?
Call me what you will but I do not wish to go back to the days of Kordell, Brister, Malone, etc…. I like a winner leading the team. If the Steelers trade Ben it could more then likely be another 20 years of average field generals before we find another franchise to lead the helm.
I say put Ben on complete lockdown, give him his final warning and chance and move on. Let him have his chance to prove he is a better man because none of us are perfect and at some point every human on this rock is or will be in need of a second chance. This is his let him have the time to prove himself or fall to the wayside, then and only then, if he fails, send him packing.
Okay, its been a few since I’ve commented so I’ll get started…
First, I think one of the things you keyed in on that the Steelers have lacked for awhile is the corner position. We’ve had some solid corners for some years now, but I think that our front 7 and defensive scheme have made our corners, rather than our corners standing alone. In the NFL today to be a great defense you need a corner that can shut down a star wide receiver when their on an island and you need a stop.
As far as Ben goes, there’s so many opinions out there that it has created an un-Steeler like atmosphere. SteelerGuy, although I’ve followed this site for awhile now, and normally have similar opinions as you, I’m going to go with Jeff on this one. The one thing I’ve held in my years as a Steeler fan is that when we won, we won with class, and when we were down, we were still a classy team. The organization tolerated nothing less, and Steelers fans could be proud that their team dealth will severe infractions of team policy by “cutting a man loose”.
The current situation seems like it can only blow up in the organization’s face if Ben doesn’t face the same consequences. Recently we got rid of Holmes for his history (domestic abuse, substance violations) and his recent violations caused him to be traded; yet, now Ben has been accused not once, but twice of rape. If the Steelers keep on this course the message I get as a fan is that getting caught smoking weed is inexcusable, but Ben’s actions OK as long he doesn’t get caught again. My main problem is if we continue down this road the Steelers quickly deteriorate to the level of the old Dallas Cowboys of the 90s, the Raiders of the 70s, or worst of all… the Bengals of today.
Why cut the guy loose because two people have “accused” him of rape? Sorry but I think that’s complete BS. He is a high profile figure and as such he is a high profile target for people trying to make a quick buck.
I remember a ways back there was an incident in a Boston night club back when Bledsoe was their quarterback. He was there and was pulled up on stage by the band and did a stage dive or something and one girl decided it was payday for her and sued him. Should the Pats have fired him because of that?
I know it’s not the same crime as rape and doesn’t carry the same weight, but its still just an accusation not a conviction. How about waiting for the man to have his day in court before you punish him?
I agree to an extent…but when you are a high profile guy, you have to think like a high profile guy. And not hang around at college bars when you’re pushing thirty. You can have parties at your house with people you can trust. Bad judgement is bad judgement. We’ll see how it plays out this season.
Take Care,
JB